Friday, 19 June 2015

MY VIEWS ABOUT MARKANDAY KATJU, RETIRED CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA

(1) I once admired him for taking the risk of expressing himself freely and letting us all to understand his views. I still admire him for all that.
Here are some of my views about his thoughts and acts.

i) He is selective, he will never choose someone to reply who might give him back a hard hit, rest assure. I have tested him many times.

ii) Just ask him why he was pleading people to vote for Kejriwal and why he is now totally against him and his party.
An idiot.
The real thing is Kejriwal didn't care for him so he became against him.

iii) Also ask him, why he is meeting NRI's in America and when someone in India asked him to meet, why he said, "main tere haath nahi aanee"?
NRI's have hair of gold, no?

iv) Moreover whatever issues he is raising, we have raised and discussed already, deeper than him. And many more than him.
Once he was counting the issues he has raised till now. Perhaps he does not know, I & people like me raise issues everyday and not only raise the issues, provide the possible solutions also and always invite one and all to raise their doubts, discuss, debate.

v) Once he was suggesting or perhaps predicting that India and Pakistan will become one. This is never gonna happen. Muslims have very different ideology, Hindus have different.This is never gonna happen.
The world can become one, but only when we succeed in developing a global culture. On the deathbed of Mohammedanism, Hinduism and all such isms a global culture may develop. That is my prediction.

vi) It is very easy to declare other's idiot.....90/95 percent , it is very difficult to see one's own idiocy.

vii) He is just expressing himself.....he is enjoying all this and he thinks that he is thinking or doing something which no other is thinking or doing. He wants reforms in India but he is wrong on various points.


(2) My response to Mr Markandey Katju, the retired Supreme Court judge.
His post----
99% of all people are good
Despite the Paris attack in which several persons were killed, and despite Haji Yaqoob Qureshi, I will repeat again what I have been repeatedly been saying : 99% people of all communities are good people. So 99% Hindus are good people, and so are 99% Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Parsis, and people of all religions, castes, races, languages, regions and nationalities. 99% Pakistanis are good people, and so are 99% Indians and 99% Bangladeshis, Nepalese, Sriklankans, Burmese, Americans, Europeans, Chinese, Arabs, Africans, etc
This is what my teacher, the great French thinker Rousseau taught me over 50 years ago when i was a very young man, and this is the belief I will retain till my death.

I will disgrace myself before my teacher ( who for me is still alive ) if I deviate an inch from this belief. I would rather die than do that.
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My response----
Hello respected sir, with due respect I differ, I think the one who thinks that the one will retain some certain belief till one's death is stupid at this certain point.
The one who thinks that by deviating from one certain belief taught by one;s teacher is disgracing one's teacher, is stupid at this certain point.
Life is flux, not something fixed, it teaches us every moment till the last moment, so such ideas are stupid.
And going against one's teacher's views is never disgracing him/her, it may be development and a real teacher would be happy with his/her student.
In-fact we all are students of life, not of any individual or some particular book or Guru.It is the life, that is a life-long teacher.---One thing
------------------------------------------------------------------------------Secondly, humans are not good basically, they are just selfish fellows, one example, they have all the laws and the law machinery, if you slap someone, you might land in the jail.
But most of the humans daily kill animals and birds just to eat and there are rare laws, what is this, why this happens? Because humans are basically good? No sir, they are not.
They do not know what goodness is, most of them do not know.

Kindly respond.
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(3) He explained,"Why I go to Dargahs? Within a few days of taking over as Chief Justice of Madras High Court in November, 2004 I enquired whether there was a dargah in Chennai. I was told there is one called the Anna Salai Dargah ( Dargah Hazrat Syed Moosa Shah Qadri ) on Mount Road. I sent a message there that I would like to come to pay my respects to the holy saint who has his grave there, and is said to have died about 450 years ago.( see link below ). I was told I was welcome.
I went there and offered a chaadar.
Since then I have been regularly visiting that Dargah whenever I go to Chennai. The old maulvi saheb who was there has since died, but others look after the shrine. They know me, and give me a lot of respect whenever I go there.
I go to dargahs wherever and whenever I can, e.g. Ajmer Sharif, Nizamuddin Aulia ( and Amir Khusro, which is just next ), Kaliyar Sharif, Deva Sharif, etc.I get a lot of happiness and peace there.
Some people may find it strange that a confirmed atheist like me visits dargahs.
It is true that I do not believe in God. But it is also true that I respect the good things in Indian culture, and I respect people of all religions. Some of my closest friends are non Hindus.
Why do I go to dargahs ? I go there because dargahs are shrines constructed over the graves of sufi saints, and I have great respect for sufi saints, who preached love, compassion and humanitarianism towards all. They made no distinction between Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs etc..Though the sufi saints were Muslims, they had many Hindu and Sikh disciples. Some sufi saints were persecuted by fanatical and bigoted people.
Hindus do not go to mosques, Muslims do not go to Hindu temples, but everyone goes to, and is welcome, in dargahs. Often there are more Hindus than Muslims in some dargahs. So dargahs are places which unite all Indians, and I love whatever unites us, and am strongly against whatever divides us, like religious bigotry and intolerance.
India is a country of great diversity. To progress we must remain united. So whatever promotes our unity, like dargahs, is good for us, and whatever divides us, like religious extremism and fanaticism, is bad for us..The Sufi spirit of tolerance and compassion is what all Indians must inculcate and imbibe.."
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I REPLIED ,"A saint is never Hindu or Muslim and if someone is Hindu or Muslim, one is never a saint.
And getting birth in a Muslim or a Hindu family, growing up in a Muslim or Hindu atmosphere does not make someone essentially Muslim or Hindus, living in a Muslim or Hindu world, does not make one a Muslim or Hindu.
Sufis had nothing to do with Muslims, they were rebels, revolting against dogmas of Muslims, stupidities of Muslims and of-course Hindus' too.
Having said all this, I disagree with your words," Though the sufi saints were Muslims, they had many Hindu and Sikh disciples. "
Sufis were never Muslims, one thing.
And they had no disciples , who were Hindus or Sikhs, if the ones who were Hindus or Sikhs , they were not their disciples."
Many people questioned me, said that Sufis were Muslims.
I FURTHER REPLIED ,"मक्के गयां गल मुक्दी नाहीं भले सौ सौ जुमा पढ़ आईये
गंगा गयां गल मुक्दी नाहीं भले सौ सौ गोते खाईये
गया गयां गल मुक्दी नाहीं भले सौ सौ पंड पढ़ाईये
बुल्ले शाह गल ताइयों मुक्दी जदो "मैं" नूं दिलों गंवाईये ----- बाबा बुल्लेशाह"
पढ़ पढ़ आलम पागल होया, कदी अपने आप नू पढ़या नईं
जा जा वड़दा मंदिर मसीतां, कदी अपने आप चे वड़या नई
एवईं रोज शैतान नाल लड़दा, कदी अक्स अपने नाल लड़या नई
बुल्ले शाह आसमानी उड दियां फड़दा, जेड़ा घर बैठा उह नूं फड़िया नईं ----- ----- बाबा बुल्लेशाह
फरीदा जे तू वंजें हज, हब्यो ही जीआ में।
लाह दिले वी लज, सच्चा हाजी तां थीएं॥.....बाबाफरीद गंजेशक्कर
कंकर पत्थर जोड़ के,,,,, मस्जिद लई चिनाय
ता पर मुल्ला बांघ दे,,,क्या बहरा हुआ खुदाय.... कबीर साहेब"
Judging someone through one's self proclaimed disciples is just like judging Alfred Hitchcock movie by watching its third rate Hindi rip off.
All of you my friends, invited here to comment.

(4) मुझ से पूछा मित्र Indal Kumar ने कि Markanday Katju ने लिखा है कि अधिकाँश पाकिस्तानी और मुस्लिम अच्छे हैं तो मेरी क्या राय है?
मेरी राय यह है कि काटजू मूर्ख हैं, इस पॉइंट पर, ठीक वैसे ही जैसे वो बहुत से अन्य पॉइंट पर मूर्ख हैं
जब तक इस पृथ्वी पर कोई भी व्यक्ति मुस्लिम है, हिन्दू है, सिख है या किसी भी अन्य बंधे बंधाए धर्म को मानता है वो अच्छा नहीं हो सकता, वो इंसानियत के लिए खतरा है, वो पृथ्वी के लिए खतरा है....इंसानियत कहाँ बंटी हैं...बांटा ही तुम्हारे यह हिन्दू , मुस्लिम आदि होने ने है..अब तुम लाख कहते रह कि हमारा धर्म इंसानियत सिखाता है, यह सिखाता है, वो सिखाता है...नहीं, सब बकवास है, नतीजे देखो न...सब दंगे धर्म के नाम पर हैं, सब बंटवारे......सारी राजनीति, गन्दी राजनीति धर्म के नाम पर ...दुनिया को तार तार करके रख दिया है
और अगली बात जब तक कोई भी व्यक्ति खुद को पाकिस्तानी, हिन्दुस्तानी समझता है , वो भी इस पृथ्वी के लिए खतरा है, पृथ्वी पर सब लकीरें, राजनीतिक लकीरें झूठी हैं....
इस लिए पाकिस्तानी अच्छे हैं, मुस्लिम अच्छे हैं, बकवास है काटजू का यह कथन....
सही कथन यह है कि जब तक कोई मुस्लिम है, हिन्दू है, इसाई है या किस भी तथा कथित धर्म को मानता है, वो अच्छा नहीं है, वो मूर्ख है, वो रोबोट है, वो मशीन है, वो खतरा है ज़मीन के लिए और जब तक कोई खुद को हिन्दुस्तानी, पाकिस्तानी, या अफ्गानिस्तानी आदि मानता है, वो दुनिया के लिए, इस ज़मीन के लिए बुरा है, शैतानी है
(5) पिछली पोस्ट पर जनाब (Markanday Katju ) ने कहा था की वे atheist हैं! इस पोस्ट में वे हिन्दू हैं! अगली में क्या होंगे पता नहीं! काफी पोस्ट अच्छी भी हैं पर अधिकतर बकवास है.. कभी कभी लगता है काटजू साहब दुनिया के सबसे कंफ्यूज बन्दे हैं! ---- By Dharamveer Nimiwal ji
(6) By above all the points, I do not mean to express that I am against him, no, I am not. I admire him on many of his stands. His views about RSS, Modi and corruption in judiciary etc. are worthwhile.

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